Yay! I got a Zeos Pocket PC. But Oh no! How to transfer files?

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Re: Yay! I got a Zeos Pocket PC. But Oh no! How to transfer files?

Post by ajacocks » Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:03 am

I’m in the same boat, about not being able to transfer files, since I don’t have the serial or parallel cables. Would anyone be willing to post some detailed pictures of the existing aftermarket solution, so that I can try to clone it? Depending on how obvious the traces are in the existing board, I might need someone to do a continuity test on some pins, as well.

I’d be happy to do a PCB design and make it available to everyone, if so.

Thanks!
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Re: Yay! I got a Zeos Pocket PC. But Oh no! How to transfer files?

Post by Kyodai » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:23 am

I still have some of these, imma see if i can take some pictures if i got the time.

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Re: Yay! I got a Zeos Pocket PC. But Oh no! How to transfer files?

Post by ajacocks » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:29 pm

That would be a great help. It'd be even better if you have enough spares to sell me one. Then, I could take my own measurements from the board.

I would like to change the existing design on 2 fronts:
1) it should have the proper connectors. I just need to figure out what the connectors are, that are on the PPC
2) I'd like to add a null-modem switch, so that a null modem adapter/cable isn't necessary for PC-to-PPC connections

Any other ideas for improvement?

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Re: Yay! I got a Zeos Pocket PC. But Oh no! How to transfer files?

Post by Kyodai » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:04 pm

Hi Alex,

hopefully I'll have time to search through my collection tonight.

I should still have several of these and since kingeorg didn't take the one i offered no problem - I can sell you one.

1. The current design is just a very thin PCB that plugs directly into the existing connectors. I'll not say that it is totally impossible to get the proper connectors, but I have doubts they were still made in the past 1 or 2 decades, so I'd be surprised if you can source these. And if you plan to make more than just one or two for yourself it might also be a cost factor - not sure about the prices if you can find these at all, but they could be expensive since i fear they are pretty rare.

2. The null modem switch seems to be a great idea.

3. What i missed most from the current design would be a case. I'd value a case much more than the proper connectors. I think someone with a 3D printer and enough skill could easily make some for the existing port replicator.

4. If possible - even less depth than the existing one. Less depth = less prone to break off i think.

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Re: Yay! I got a Zeos Pocket PC. But Oh no! How to transfer files?

Post by ajacocks » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:32 am

I have a 3D printer, and spend a fair amount of time creating cases for retro devices. I'd be happy to make one.

If the connectors are truly NLA, then I can probably create a connector by wrapping plastic around the existing PCB fingers.

And I found this:
http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/2257 ... ts0874.pdf

I think that may be the connector, but there is only a 26 pin version. There is no 10 pin version. There might have been, in the past.

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Re: Yay! I got a Zeos Pocket PC. But Oh no! How to transfer files?

Post by Kyodai » Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:38 pm

OK i finally had some time to take some photos... Geez family keeps me busy these days... :)

So here they are:

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Maybe i should also search the original cables, but i think the adaptor already gives some impression of the contacts of the port.


After all is said and done this may not be the pinnacle of German engineering but a simple solution at least.

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Re: Yay! I got a Zeos Pocket PC. But Oh no! How to transfer files?

Post by ajacocks » Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:05 pm

Many thanks! That is a seriously thin PCB, I see what you meant.

I'll send you a private message, to discuss buying one from you.

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Re: Yay! I got a Zeos Pocket PC. But Oh no! How to transfer files?

Post by Kyodai » Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:01 pm

OK sent you the tracking info via PM. :3

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